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I'm very kind of you too to ask me to speak to you this evening.

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This is rather a mammoth task and I might add, going to recent illness, all down in

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the space of a short space of time available cliffhanger.

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I was still writing these notes two hours ago.

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UFO hypothesis, ten years of change.

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That's the title.

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We blame Captain Ivan McKay for that.

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Had I been able to write to my friend Amy Michel and tell him that I would be

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giving this talk on this particular topic, I can almost imagine him sitting there.

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Mmm. UFO hypothesis.

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Ideas. Ideas. No good. We don't want ideas.

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All we want is information. Facts. Facts. And more facts.

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That's Amy Michel, the man who sought up the straight line theory.

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Ten years ago, Waysley Gerbyn was editor of Flying Sources Review.

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We were very close friends.

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I had a chance meeting with him at the place where I work.

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And it so happened that we discovered that we travelled on the same railway line every day.

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So we saw an awful lot of each other, both on trains and elsewhere after that.

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He was a very fine man, Waysley. Very deep thinking man.

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He had views, the same as most people at that time, which he was prepared to state.

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And this was that UFOs, Flying Sources, he preferred to call them Flying Sources,

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were terrestrial or extraterrestrial objects visiting this planet for some reason unknown to us.

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I had no definite views. I'd been fascinated by records in 1947.

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And before that too, the Ghost Rockets in 1946. I'd also read Keyhoes books.

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A newspaper article was on the subject. I'd read Ruppelt.

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And from 1955 onwards, I'd read Flying Sources Review straight from number one.

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The prevailing idea at the time indeed was that there were extraterrestrial objects visiting this planet.

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And to me, it did not seem unreasonable.

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Waysley likewise. But of course, oh Waysley always kept his card very close to his chest.

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And there were many things he thought about that you knew nothing about.

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And I discovered, since becoming editor, from remembrances of things that he said,

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and from odd items of correspondence that have come my way,

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that he certainly was thinking in other directions as well.

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Ten years ago, before ten years ago, there had been a few attempts to offer non-extraterrestrial hypothesis.

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Let's call that ETH, shall we? Rather a mouthful.

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Explanations. We had theories of Mead Lane and W. Gordon Allen.

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And in FSR, in Flying Sources Review, we've had, among other people,

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Louis Schell-Sönheer, dallying over his extra three-dimensional theories.

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I remember I've been very fascinated by those at the time,

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especially as Waysley showed me the original text, the text which I have seen with the same nature,

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many times since, where, although they're written in English,

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you have to translate them in order to understand what they meant.

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And dear old Louis Schell-Sönheer was very obsessed at that time with the ideas of the fourth dimension.

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Again, I can imagine.

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In fact, I've heard Amy and his friend Pierre Guillaume and one or two others saying fourth dimensions,

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incomprehensible, impossible, nonsense.

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Well, UFOs and the technology which we suppose is associated with them are also incomprehensible to us.

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It's an incomprehensible phenomenon.

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So the answer to that one is so what?

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Ten years ago, two hypotheses predominant.

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The first, that they are extraterrestrial visitors.

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And the second, that they do not exist.

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Well, how did this come about?

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I suppose it all started in 1947 with that man, Kenneth Arnold, and his Flying Sorcer description.

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And thereupon people said, what are they?

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And from whence do they come?

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Are they spacious?

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And then, they are spacious, just as simply as that.

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There's no proof at all of this.

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Authoritatively unconfirmed rumors,

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but no factual detailed reports of UFOs coming into our atmosphere from space.

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I'll tell you, there have been hints of reports from the astronauts

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and debates and plenty about objects reported to have been photographed by astronauts out in space.

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But it's doubtful that we'd ever be told if there were such reports.

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Well, UFOs became popular when somebody called them Flying Sorcers.

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The so-called ETH was really just a guess, or a series of guesses.

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But as this guess was made and put abroad,

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UFOs, or the study of UFO reports, acquired an interested following.

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Well, as I see it and as all my friends see it, there is no harm in theorizing.

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If a phenomenon is interesting enough, because it is elusive as UFOs are,

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interesting enough to cause people to theorize about it, then it is all to the good,

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especially if attractive enough to generate energy in the people who theorize about it,

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to collect and record reports.

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And after 20 or more years, that, not hypotheses, is our main need in this subject.

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The most encouraging feature of the past 10 years is that concerted efforts are being made here and there

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to collect and log detailed information.

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And also, to re-examine many of the old and inadequately examined cases,

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this is the most important thing that we should do.

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The spirit of objectivity is on the wing.

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Even the limited data which we now possess after 24 years,

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since the publicity first given to the subject,

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even that data is beginning now to lend itself to examination or mass,

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for comparison of cases with other cases,

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and for study of patterns of behavior in computerized programs and so on.

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And this, of course, leads to better hypotheses.

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The changes during the last 10 years are already widening the scope of investigations and thoughts.

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10 years ago, we were nursing a funny subject with a funny name,

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thanks to the man who first gave it publicity.

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And because of this, those interested in the subject went on the defensive.

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In 1953, there were claims made of an alleged landing

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and of photographs that were taken purportably of the object which was concerned in the landing.

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And here, apparently, on the face of it, was support for the ETH.

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The claimant, some of you must know of him, George Adamski,

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said that his contacts had told him that they were extraterrestrial.

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Now, this all sounds very silly.

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And a charlatan label was attached immediately to Mr. Adamski

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and in particular, by those adherents to the extraterrestrial hypothesis.

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You can't win all the time anyway.

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In the USA, there were two main groups, or, as we've learned since, warring factions.

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There was the Keyhole Group, NICAP, National Investigations Commission of Aerial Phenomena,

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and there was the Lorenzen Group, Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, APRO.

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Keyhole and Co. thought the subject, thought the objects that we see were extraterrestrial.

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But they would never hear for one moment that they were occupied by anything.

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Lorenzen and Co. definitely thought that these things were extraterrestrial and that they were occupied.

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Lorenzen and Co. were very interested in the humanoid occupants.

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And in the rest of the world, some people perversed.

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Others collected reports and waited to see which way the cat would jump.

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Well, in 1964, the way it only became ill,

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and more by luck than judgment, I was asked to stand in as a caretaker of FSR.

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And then, very unhappily, Wayne Izouness proved to be malignant and he died.

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And fortunately, with the aid of many, many good friends, I'm still taking care of FSR.

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In 1964, when this happened to me, when I was inclined to look upon it a bit lightheartedly in those days,

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but it was quite a burden when it landed on the shoulders, and immediately I needed to broaden my knowledge.

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And the first person I got in touch with, the very first, at that time, was sitting here beside me,

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Mr. Gordon Crichton, who we had many discussions.

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And in particular, we started talking and started theorizing about this subject.

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We just had to do, I mean, I had to widen the scope.

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I remember having a long discussion within one day in the lounge of the Norwegian club,

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on ancient religions and philosophies and beliefs in other levels of existence, other matter,

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what eventually became known as the parallel universe, I dare.

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I don't know if you have seen anything about this.

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Again, my friend in France, parallel universes, nonsense.

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But many ancient religions, including Christianity, if you look at it closely,

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hold to this idea of a different, in Christianity, down below, a different level of existence.

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And there was the idea that there was seepage, God knows how, from that level to this.

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Now this is all very, very complicated. I don't want to go on more about it, but the thought is

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that denizens of this other world live here among us, but on a different time basis.

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And therefore, they and we are all passing in between them.

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But as I said, this is terribly, terribly difficult.

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Well, we weren't the only ones to discuss this possibility. This wasn't a hypothesis.

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This was purely a discussion of ideas.

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Elsewhere, there was a man called Alan Greenfield in America who put forth an idea that there were

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alternate realities from which denizens came through and visited us momentarily and went away.

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In fact, Jerry Clark, Jerome Clark, had quite a lively correspondence with me for many years.

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And he was talking about this idea of Alan Greenfield, about this alternate reality.

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And I remember him writing about this and about the fourth dimension idea.

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The fourth dimension is if you have a pack of cards in your hand, and the fourth dimension are cards which are nowhere to be seen.

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You can't see that at all. But the alternate reality is like the back of the card in your hand, if you get what we mean.

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The parallel universe and alternate reality ideas are attractive and, as I said, complicated.

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But of course, they could explain the part of the phenomenon which has appeared with regularity,

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not only in the last 25 years, but in many years we've discovered in flaps in the past, 100 years ago, 8 years ago,

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of materialization and dematerialization that are reported by many witnesses,

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these things which are suddenly here and just as suddenly gone.

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I expect a large, great number of you. I don't want to bore you, but I expect a great number of you have read all about the case at Balonso,

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from the south of France on the 1st of July, 1965.

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M. Mass, the witness, witness in that case, said that the object which he had seen and the entities whose influence he said had left him immobile

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took off with a thump from a central pivot which was stuck in the ground in the 6th and 8th which whirled around,

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stood there motionless and then slowly floated away for a pace of about 20 meters and then it wasn't there.

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Now, one of the investigators who had a lot to do with M. Mass and is still seeing him was Amy Michel.

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He waited until the hub up and down about this case and he had long talks with him.

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One of the places he used to talk to him was in the gendarmerie where M. Michel's brother was an officer.

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This was a very suitable place to make sure you got a degree of truthfulness, I suppose.

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And he said to him, now do you mean surely that this object, this egg-shaped object, just went away so fast that the eye couldn't follow it.

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There it was and it suddenly was gone like this.

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M. Mass protested vehemently about this. He said, no, it did not. It was there and then it wasn't there.

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It was just like this. So this is an instance of the alleged dematerialization about which we heard an awful lot 10 years or more ago.

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From parallel universes and alternate realities, it is but a very short step to the world of the elementals.

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Now again, I imagine a lot of you here know about the case of, as we used to call it, ABB, Antonio Villas-Bomas.

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A little Brazilian farmer in the backwoods, a thousand miles or a thousand kilometers or more from Rio de Janeiro, who persistently saw strange objects.

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Near his field where he was working at night, plowing. Don't think that's ridiculous. They had one plow and this capital equipment had to be used to the fullest extent.

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So his brother plowed by day and he plowed by night, a floodlight thing.

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And Antonio Villas-Bomas claims that he was apprehended and taken aboard an object.

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And there was given a rather searching and peculiar medical examination by strange, heavy-suited entities.

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And was then introduced to another entity who wasn't heavily garmented at all.

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And who he said, from the difference shown to him by the six who had dealings with him, appeared to be the captain of the ship.

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Well, I won't enlarge on what went on after that.

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Suffice it to say that we first heard about this case in 1962 and it was considered rather way out for the review to consider even publishing it.

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Now, remember there were plenty of rather coarse jokes about it.

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About people who were hoping that similar experiences might occur. Waiting for Captain Daughter's man.

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Well, early in 1965, about the time that we were having discussions about all manner of philosophies and beliefs,

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Gordon brought out the AVV story, plus a lot more about it in Portuguese.

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He dusted it all off and translated it and thought it might be a good idea if we published it and had a lot to say about it.

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Because a number of things have happened between 1962 and 1965 which made it feasible to publish this story.

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And in his discussion of the Antonio Villas-Burst story, some of you may recall that the question of the elementals was raised.

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He said that we were not to overlook the possibility that abduction and seduction, a seduction of the Brazilian farmer,

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was part and parcel of a nasty game of temptation and deception by denizens of a never-world.

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And he produced evidence from the 11th and 12th century literature,

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the Lisiotical literature of legends of Inquibi and Sakube.

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These beings, who were offspring from people abducted and seduced, were supposedly witches and demons.

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Well, that's one way of looking at the AVV story.

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Another way is to wonder whether or not it could fit cosily into the ETH.

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On the face of it, it looks rather different from the Damse story and others that we have read about.

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But it has been suggested that if indeed these were extraterrestrial beings landing here and doing this to this little Brazilian farmer,

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who mis-says why they picked him, that they were looking to improve the strain of their race, if indeed there is a race.

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There could be another explanation to that, but more of that later.

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So suddenly we find ourselves, about five or six years ago, seven years ago,

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moving a very long way away from the straightforward extraterrestrial hypothesis of reconnaissance and surveillance by beings in things which come and take a quick look and go away.

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I remember at the time when we published the first edition of the humanoids, our paperback edition, in October 1966.

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Soon after that was out, I had a letter from Jacques Valet.

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And in this he said he noted with interest, suggestions about the elementals.

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He hoped, by the way, that too many people wouldn't also take notice of this, because he was doing some research on it.

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And indeed, quite recently the results of his research were published in a book called A Passport to Montmagonia.

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And in this book he makes comparisons between the elementals and occupant reports.

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Jacques Valet is very non-committal about all this.

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But another writer who has been quite in evidence in Flysworth Review during the last three years or so, he did commit himself.

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This was John Keel.

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Now, I do know that it is quite true that John Keel conducted very widespread investigation on the ground.

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He saw that this was necessary. He is a journalist with strict journalistic training.

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And as no one was prepared to finance this, he got on with the job himself.

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As a result, he lives in New York City and New York City.

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It's a frightful place to live in, I'm told.

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A place of roaring inflation. And we know what that means. There are two.

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As a result of all this, John Keel has made himself virtually penniless.

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And by the way, he's disappeared more or less from the scene in the recent months simply because he had to try and earn a living.

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Well, Keel was a journalist, a hard-bitten journalist.

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And he was used to looking at subjects that he chose to write about in an objective manner.

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And I don't doubt for a moment that his investigations remained in very objective way.

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However, it also seems, and those of us who've read a lot of Keel's work, that he became hooked on the subject.

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Keel always said that once he got to grips with one case, started his investigations in West Virginia, Ohio.

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Once he got to grips with one case, it always led to another, and that to another, and that to another.

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In the end, one case that the investigator would lead perhaps to 40 or 50 other instances.

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All of them unknown. Never been reported by anybody. He calls on his silent contactees.

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It became a cascade in the end. It not only had UFOs and occupants and contacts.

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We also had a weird creature called the Mothman, men in black, and the lot.

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Well, broadly, Keel says that all this is due to the elementals.

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Entities who can materialize in our world in diverse forms and sizes, MIB, men in black, mystery animals, and so on.

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The weakness of Keel, of course, that as a hard-bitten journalist, he seeks to protect his sources from all the other hard-bitten shark journalists,

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and sort of floating all around him in his field. Consequently, his work is somewhat badly documented.

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In fact, some of it is not documented at all.

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Lots of people can't stand in for this, and one of them in particular is Ballet.

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Yet in passport to Mogonia, Ballet implies much the same thing as Keel claims. Very odd world.

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And by the way, as a note down here, you'll have to excuse me constantly looking at these notes,

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because as I say, I haven't done very well and I've only just prepared all this lot.

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There's a note down here which says, Frade, and for a moment I looked at it and said, Yeah, it's Frade.

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Now, I realize that this is a scientist in America who is a very close friend of Dr. Heineck.

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And in the last year, this chap has been getting abroad and getting out into the country and doing a lot of investigation of his own accounts.

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In particular, one of the things that he has been very interested in is the case of Slippy, the horse.

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The horse which was found terribly mutilated, in fact, almost beyond recognition after alleged UFO landings.

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Well, one of the things that Frade has said to us is that once he got into this case, it led to others.

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And the other, that goes to other cases and so on.

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In the end, he had something like 45 cases in his notebook just from investigating Slippy, and not one of them had ever been reported anywhere.

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And some of them were most weird.

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And this is from a man, a very important scientist.

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I can't disclose his name for a moment because he doesn't want any publicity.

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But he is a man of the, well, he's soon to be a man of world renown, I can assure you.

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Well, surely enough, lots of these things that we've had reported, and remember, we're just looking at reports.

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We're not believing any of them. This is a thing we must not do. We must not believe.

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We must not believe in flying saucers. Get that into your noddles. We must not believe in them.

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What we must believe is that there is a very real case to examine.

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And a lot of these things we read about are rather frightening.

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ABB itself, for all the interest, is quite a frightening thing.

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Then there's the Taiupu Fort case. I don't know if any of you remember that.

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A case where two centuries, Ron Dutier, had drowsy old Brazilian coastal forts.

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Then it was atop of the ramparts or whatever it is they had with big guns.

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In the middle of the night, practically on the verge of possibly dozing off, I don't know, but suddenly they see a star.

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And this star attracts them because it's very bright, very much brighter than all the other stars.

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And they realise too that this star is approaching them.

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And then they realise they think that this is an aeroplane.

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And the thing comes closer and they can see that it's not an aeroplane.

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And in the end, they're absolutely spellbound.

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Their Thompson guns hang loosely at their sides and they look at this thing as it's there above them.

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And then it comes edging down towards them.

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Now, there was no talk in that report of rays or anything like this, but just of heat.

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And they became unbearably hot.

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One of them passed out, the other one managed to stagger away and try and get some shelter under one of the guns.

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And he set up a great screening and a catawalling and awakened the rest of the camp, the garrison.

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And they came running up, God knows what sort of enemy was attacking them.

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Great alarm all bells clanging and then everything happened.

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The bells stopped, the clocks all stopped at that same precise moment.

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The place was plunged into darkness.

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And the others from inside got on top of the ramparts just in time to see this bluish light thing going to the distance.

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There was one sentry stretched out unconscious and the other one gibbering like a madman under one of the guns.

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As far as my information goes, this was when 1957, I believe, this poor devil is still gibbering like a madman.

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And they were terribly burned.

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And what's more, they were burned beneath their protective clothing and not in places that were exposed.

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Then there were the Venezuelan cases.

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I forget the exact names of the places offhand, but they're all listed.

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This is the trouble with this subject, there's so many thousands of things, I just can't remember them all.

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But I believe one of the names of the witnesses was Gomez or something, wasn't it?

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They were attacked by an object which came down and they were attacked by, allegedly, my little hairy dwarf creatures with solid, gnarled sort of skins.

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And they had to put up a terrible fight to get away from it.

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Well, that looked very stupid, very peculiar, until we had a story which came to us from a very learned anthropologist who'd been studying folklore and goodness knows what else.

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In Mexico.

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And he told the story of the Icals.

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I dare say it's plenty of people remember these things which spelt in the most peculiar way of the question mark in Frunberg.

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Mexican elemental creatures.

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And by his description, they were entirely similar to these horrid things which had attacked these gentlemen in Venezuela.

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Then we had the flack of the monster.

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By the description, he looked so much like John Keele's wasman.

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And the sandling park creature in this country.

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The four young people who saw an object descending from the sky.

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An over-loid shining object which came down and they still engaged it.

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And it stopped just above the ground, short distance away from them.

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And then they felt frightened and they started to run.

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And looked up and the thing was keeping pace with them at the same distance.

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And then it disappeared behind some trees.

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And they stopped to look.

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The next thing, as though out of nowhere, there was a monster shambling towards them.

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A thing which looked just like this flatwood thing.

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Rather similar to the descriptions we've seen as mohomans.

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Wet feet.

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Apparently with glowing eyes. Apparently, as I say, in its shoulders, no head, a wing.

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They ran to their lives. No complainment.

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Then there was that case, Pilar de Goyas, which we wrote about.

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About a couple of years ago.

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The old Inatio Souza.

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The Fizender manager and his wife in Brazil.

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Who used the traipse off from 10, 20 kilometers on foot to go and get the provisions.

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And come back to them.

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When they got back to the Fizender after one of these long walks, all loaded up with things.

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There, on the Fizender's airfield. These Fizender owners are very wealthy.

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They vary up to three aircraft each.

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There on the airstrip were three apparently naked.

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But the wife said no, they weren't naked.

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They were dressed in tight fitting clothes. Creatures.

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Gambling about.

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And they stopped and looked at this knot.

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And then old Inatio saw the object.

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They hadn't seen it at first.

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That was hovering some way back. Just over the runway.

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And he became very frightened at this point.

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And he had his car vying with him.

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He lifts it up and starts to take a pot shot.

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One of these gambling entities.

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And at the moment that he fires, so the story goes.

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Remember his wife was there as well.

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A thin beam of green light.

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Shot out from the thing and glanced off his head and shoulders.

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And knocked him to the ground.

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The wife, who was a bit alarmed by all this.

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Had the sense to look up and she saw, because she's probably frightened of these entities and what they might be doing.

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Had the good sense to look up and saw that they had apparently disappeared into thin.

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We're not told how. I'd be very interested to know that.

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Which then took off and went away.

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Well, they got her husband home.

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And in the next two days he became very nastily ill.

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So ill in fact that the Fasenda owner took him himself and he's blamed him nearby town.

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And got him treatment.

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Well, almost enough of that story, except from the fact that Inasio Sousa.

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Who was capable every week of doing 20 mile walks loaded up with luggage and goods and provisions and things like this.

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Died inside a few weeks, about six or seven weeks I believe, of a galloping leukemia.

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I don't say that it was caused by what hit him.

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But it could be. Or could have been.

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All these nasty tales, many others like them, seem a very long way from their old George Adam skin.

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His good natured long haired bringers of good tidings.

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One of our main disputes with John Keele, who's had a very good airing in Flowing Source Review.

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Is that he in his ideas, in his theories that he's procured, only sees the bad side of things.

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He thinks the whole, every aspect of this Flowing Source phenomenon is evil.

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However, we all feel that evil must be counterbalanced by good.

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Human beings need hope.

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We feel, in fact we know, that there is hope and good in the universe.

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I mean, apart from the stories that you see or hear of the contactees,

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there are many stories of feelings.

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You probably remember the story of Defty's good and McCoy.

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The police officer, good, who had his hand bitten by a playful alligator.

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There was a vote for keeping alligators at one time in America.

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Until they got too big and then they put them down the loo.

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And with the result, that enormous alligators were growing in all the sewers.

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And it became a hazard.

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It was the evil order for the workers to go down in the sewers.

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Well, Defty Good was one of these men whose son gets a tough alligator and it bit him.

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And he went out that evening with his hand all badly swollen and a nasty mess all bandaged up.

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He still went on duty, patrolman, and resting his hand on the side of the car while he was driving.

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Remember, left hand drive.

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And they saw this thing.

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They were a bit puzzled by it.

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And then they got frightened by it and reversed the car quickly and started nipping back to this town in Texas.

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Damon, I think it's called in Texas.

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And as they did so, a beam of light is allaged to a shot out from this object onto the car and in particular it fell on the hand of Defty Good.

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Well, the thing did not keep up this car which went away, we are told, at speed in excess of 100 miles an hour.

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And then the coppers began to see that perhaps this is rather a stupid way for cops to behave.

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So they turned back and bravely went back again into the fray.

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And it was during this return that Defty Good suddenly realized that his hand wasn't aching anymore.

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But despite this realization that something peculiar had happened which possibly made his hand better,

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when they saw the thing again coming for them, they again reversed and went out of it as quick as they could.

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His hand was healed within two or three hours of this very nasty, allocated night.

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And there are other cases like this where we have reports of people being healed, many of them.

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The case of Dr. X in his town in the south of France.

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Dr. X I might add because Amy, Michelle and Pierre Guérin are still keeping in touch with this case,

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following it up and they don't want it to be interfered with.

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Pierre Guérin sent us some beautiful photographs of the district and I published them.

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No one seems to think there was anything wrong in that, but of course now Dr. X has been discovered by one or two people.

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But Dr. X also was a man who, his story is in UFO recipients,

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had been badly wounded in Algeria, an occipital wound, occipital region of the head,

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which had caused him a sort of mild paralysis down the right hand side,

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with the results that he couldn't engage in his piano court playing, which was one of his greatest delights.

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That I believe was in 1958 or thereabouts.

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Still, he carried on working and in his house one day he was working in the garden

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and he was trying to uproot a box with tree stump.

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I suppose he was getting a bit annoyed with it and had a good slash at it with his axe,

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missed the tree and slashed his shin, which didn't help either.

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And then a couple of days later he was awakened by his baby son,

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who knew that something odd was going on outside and pulled out.

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And the upshot of it was that the doctor eventually went outside and saw this peculiar thing out there.

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And it approached and shone a beam of light on him.

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That was all. And then it went away. It was all rather pointless it seems.

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But within minutes, Dr X was back upstairs in his bedroom,

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and awakened his wife and was telling her all about this thing,

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and suddenly he said, Tajon, your leg!

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He was a doctor who was sort of hobbling around like this on crutches.

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He was striding up and down the room waving his hands, telling her all about this thing that had happened to him.

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And suddenly he realised what he was doing with his arm.

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Well, that's cutting the story very short, but within days he was able to play the piano again.

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Well, this all sounds nice and friendly, doesn't it?

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But not all nasty by the sound of it.

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Except that we know a little bit more about Dr X, which we hope soon the two will know about.

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And that's not so nice.

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Funnily enough, we have a new case from the United States.

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We're going to tell you about it in the next issue of the review.

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Not this one, just to come out, but the one following.

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This is another one of these gentlemen who prefer to remain anonymous, and I can assure you.

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But when you read it, you'll see why.

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Mr O, if I remember correctly, such a long while since I saw it, the printer's had it for months.

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Mr O had a UFO experience, and he developed a partial, temporary paralysis.

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Now, this is a case which has been studied in very great detail by our very good friend Dr Bert Schwarz.

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And Bert says that he had partial temporary paralysis, but he also had peculiar medical terms, lesions, an unmentionable place,

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longitudinal stripes. On good authority, there were no stars with stripes.

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As I say, we're now next.

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Anyway, here's a case I've got here which could retrieve a modicum of hope for the dear older damski followers.

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The ET boys were both despised by all the other ET boys.

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There's very peculiar subject there. Excuse me while I just dig in here, won't you?

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I thought I'd put this thing in here. Yes, there it is.

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This happened at a place called Lagua Negra.

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That is, that pronunciation is fairly correct. It means the Black Lake.

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It took place in the early part of January 1968.

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It was a clear night with no wind, somewhere between the times 8 and 10 p.m.

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This was at one of these fazendas, which means plantation.

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In the municipality of Imau, near Laguadad Patos, you must excuse my horrible pronunciation,

419
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which is in the southern Brazilian state of Rio Grande do Sol.

420
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000
There were five witnesses in this incident.

421
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,000
The owner of the fazenda, his wife, his son, his daughter, and the fazenda manager.

422
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:28,000
All persons with reasonable education and son and son, daughter, in fact, have high school education.

423
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,000
They saw an object for a period of about 20 minutes.

424
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Unfortunately, this isn't as in as great detail as I would like, but we have to put up with that.

425
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
We are very thankful that people send us anything at all.

426
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,000
The UFO was round, approximately three meters high and ten meters wide.

427
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,000
On the upper part, it had a round hat-shaped cupola.

428
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,000
On the under portion, there seemed to be some sort of protuberance.

429
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Although they were unable to establish exactly what this was like.

430
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:13,000
This craft or object had a metallic gleam and emitted a powerful cold reddish light.

431
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,000
They remained floating at about two meters above the ground.

432
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,000
There was no rotary movement except when it began to move away.

433
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:29,000
When the witnesses did observe, what seemed to be a slight rotary movement.

434
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000
The reddish light emitted by the UFO made their eyes burn.

435
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,000
This is a feature we see many times, burning eyes.

436
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,000
We have seen this in the Mothman case, we have seen it in many cases.

437
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
It penetrated through the chinks in the windows and the doors of the house,

438
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,000
spreading out inside and lighting up the whole interior.

439
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,000
The object was exactly 390 meters from the house they measured at the time.

440
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Now there were five occupants of this thing to appear.

441
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:11,000
The first two were tall, about two meters, that's well over six feet.

442
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,000
They were dressed in a sort of white overall with a broad band, and also white at the waist.

443
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,000
The colours of the overalls were high and of a dark colouring.

444
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,000
The faces of the beams were full and they had long hair hanging down as far as the shoulders.

445
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
The daughter said they looked like saints.

446
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000
They seemed to be of the white race.

447
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:45,000
They had big bare feet and long hands, and a rigid manner of walking without bending the legs.

448
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:52,000
The three following beams were small of stature, about one metre forty.

449
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,000
They were wearing chestnuts, brown coloured overalls with a band of the same colour at the waist.

450
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,000
They had long hair falling down to as far as the shoulders.

451
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
They were also of the white race.

452
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Their feet were shod in small boots.

453
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,000
They walked rapidly, never however, quitting the area beneath the hovering disc.

454
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000
The three small ones never moved away from the disc.

455
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:26,000
The two large ones did move away and went towards the wire fence, getting as far as a rampart which runs along beside the fence and serves the drain of water.

456
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,000
They followed this rampart along until they were to point halfway between the disc and the gate.

457
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Then they retraced their steps the way they had come.

458
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:46,000
They came away from the disc a second time, this time by another route, that is to say directly up to the gate, where they halted in front of a small wooden bridge over the rampart.

459
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000
Then they returned to the disc by the same route.

460
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000
Then they came from the disc a third time.

461
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,000
This time by a route they had first followed.

462
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:02,000
Cross the bridge, came to the gate, opened the gate, then entered and then closed the gate.

463
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Very polite.

464
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Then came up to the house.

465
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,000
The Fizenda owner and his manager had gone out of the house and had taken up positions lying under two palm trees.

466
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:21,000
As there was a small elevation in the terrain between the palm trees and the disc, they were able to observe the objects without being seen themselves.

467
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:30,000
The wife and the young son and daughter were inside the house, frightened by the red light that had invaded the house the boy was lying in bed, covered himself with bed clothes.

468
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,000
The mother and daughter were peeping through the path the open door, watching the entity's approach.

469
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Five dogs of the household, which were normally savage towards strangers, never at any moment were disturbed.

470
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:49,000
They remained quiet even when the two meters tall beings entered the gate and started towards the house.

471
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Seeing that the dogs were not reacting, the manager decided that he was armed, that he would challenge the entities.

472
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
But the owner was frightened and ordered him to keep quiet.

473
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:11,000
When the beings got to about 60 meters from the house, the daughter was able to see their features clearly, because the whole area around the belt was completely lit by the light from the disc.

474
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,000
And she exclaimed, Mother, they look like saints.

475
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
This explanation by the daughter frightened the mother.

476
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
The fourth wife decided to call her husband to come back to the house.

477
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,000
And when she opened the door and called out to her husband, the beings halted.

478
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000
They did this several times until finally they turned around and went back to the disc along the same route by which they had come.

479
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,000
Then all of them entered the object, which rose up vertically, apparently with the slight rotary movement.

480
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,000
And so on.

481
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,000
And I should go into everything with it.

482
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Well, that all seems very nice and friendly, I know what I said.

483
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000
Very polite.

484
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,000
How long are we going?

485
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000
Well, now remember, this is only theorizing.

486
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000
The thing we mustn't really do.

487
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,000
I've heard it suggested.

488
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
By some people that we human observers are not all we think we are.

489
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,000
That we are pawns in some gigantic struggle.

490
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000
It has been said.

491
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:33,000
That we are descendants of extraterrestrials set down by godlike extraterrestrial bosses.

492
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,000
And there are many I know, you've read them.

493
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
Research for evidence in ancient books like the Bible.

494
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000
And they make well a sense of that.

495
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:55,000
When the, when our descendants, according to this idea, were set down, they found the planet already occupied by elementals.

496
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,000
The elementals object to this.

497
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,000
But according to these ideas, we have been protected by the ET bosses.

498
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Is this not familiar to all of us under another name?

499
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:17,000
The phenomena we witness, the UFO phenomena, psychic phenomena et al.

500
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,000
All part, as it's suggested, of the struggle for possession of us.

501
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,000
And that is going on all around us.

502
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Good extraterrestrials on one side.

503
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,000
Demoliacal elemental forces on the other.

504
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,000
Trying to gain control.

505
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:45,000
It's once said to me, why are so many of these objects seen?

506
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
And remember, this is mostly a nocturnal phenomenon.

507
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Why are they seen hovering over houses in the middle of the night?

508
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
What are they doing there?

509
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,000
What are they up to, indeed?

510
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:16,000
It looks, by the way, that whatever controls this phenomenon is doing quite a bit of hoaxing and letting down.

511
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
No doubt a lot of you have heard of Dino Craspedon, who wrote a book.

512
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
When, 1957, I believe it was.

513
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:40,000
And this book was considered, by most people with some scientific education, to be a load of old rubbish.

514
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,000
There are others who think it's a very profound book.

515
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Now, goodness knows how Dino Craspedon got hold of this.

516
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000
But after this book was published, he went to ground.

517
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,000
He wasn't heard off for years.

518
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000
And then suddenly he popped up again.

519
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,000
His name, by the way, proper name is Aladino Felix.

520
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000
He popped up again in Rio de Janeiro.

521
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:15,000
And, apparently, he's had more contact with the flying saucers.

522
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
This was the name of his original book.

523
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,000
And he says that he has, from then, prophecies.

524
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
And he made some of his prophecies.

525
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,000
And a few people remember these prophecies, most of them laughed.

526
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,000
And then, when these things came true, they perked up their ears.

527
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
And he made some more prophecies.

528
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000
And when these came true, people began to take notice.

529
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,000
And then he made one prophecy.

530
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,000
That there would be one nasty natural disaster.

531
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,000
The Rio de Janeiro.

532
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000
In about a month's time.

533
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:07,000
And, indeed, in about a month's time, it rained and it rained and it rained and it rained.

534
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,000
And, by goodness, it's heavy rain there, I'm told.

535
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,000
So heavy, but all down the sides of the morrows,

536
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,000
which overhang down which these villages and houses have built,

537
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000
these shanty towns,

538
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,000
it poured a deluge of water and mud and it wiped out hundreds of people.

539
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Dino Craspidon became news.

540
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,000
In fact, big news.

541
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,000
They got him on the television.

542
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
And they got him prophesying on the television.

543
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,000
And he prophesied.

544
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,000
And it's all on the record and the papers.

545
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:53,000
He prophesied that Martin Luther King would be assassinated.

546
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000
And also Robert Kennedy.

547
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,000
And when he'd done this and they were indeed assassinated,

548
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,000
then people were very, very interested.

549
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:14,000
And then Dino Craspidon began to prophesy that there would be a great wave of violence.

550
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Where was he getting all this information from?

551
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:24,000
There would be a great wave of violence, robberies, murder, looting, rape.

552
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,000
And, goodness, there is what?

553
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,000
By great gangs of robbers.

554
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,000
And all this in due course started to take place in about a month's time.

555
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,000
But Dino Craspidon had indeed been so successful in his previous prophecies

556
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,000
that the police had taken very real notes and were laying in wait for this to happen.

557
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,000
And the gang was quickly captured and rounded up.

558
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
And one of the leaders of the gang was Dino Craspidon.

559
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000
And when they took him away to prison,

560
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:10,000
the youth of entities told me that men from Venus told me they will come and rescue me.

561
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,000
That was two or three years ago and he's still in prison.

562
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:21,000
So you see, it's possible that indeed Dino Craspidon was getting his information from some inspired source.

563
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,000
I mean, you can't do that sort of thing in time.

564
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,000
And again, you can do it once.

565
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
But not several times running.

566
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:37,000
And then, they came the let down and pushed the let down of the flying source of subject.

567
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,000
With it.

568
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Well, you probably all know that it's far more to my taste to say how is the game being played?

569
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
And by whom?

570
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,000
And in the human eyes, I don't like to keep rubbying down your throat,

571
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:03,000
but in the human eyes in 1966, we began to make some manner of suggestions, little ideas which came creeping in.

572
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:08,000
This idea, you so often see reports of these objects landing

573
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,000
and then people suddenly seeing things.

574
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000
And suddenly these things going away.

575
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,000
And then, they came to me and said,

576
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,000
they're suddenly seeing things.

577
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,000
And suddenly these things going away.

578
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,000
These things suddenly appearing as if down beams of light.

579
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000
What if something is being projected from solid objects,

580
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,000
indeed which are coming here and landing or near landing here,

581
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000
projected into the minds of people.

582
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,000
I thought about this and then I spoke to Maxwell Cade about it.

583
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:50,000
And it wasn't until we had spoken together on this that I decided I would put these things, making things public, these ideas.

584
00:58:51,000 --> 00:59:02,000
Maxwell Cade said that it was very reasonable to think that human beings could have fears when they saw an object landing.

585
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,000
What is it?

586
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,000
What is in it?

587
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Is it a hairy monster?

588
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,000
Does it contain a hairy monster?

589
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,000
No, Max is a very gifted hypnotist among many other things.

590
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,000
And he knows what can be done in this field.

591
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:32,000
And he says that it's quite possible that these ideas could be picked up, amplified by something and thrown straight back

592
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,000
to the person who is thinking or having the more experience in them.

593
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000
And back come these ideas greatly amplified.

594
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Indeed, is it a hairy monster?

595
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,000
No, there is a great big hairy monster.

596
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,000
This is not so silly as it sounds.

597
00:59:52,000 --> 01:00:01,000
Something on this principle is used by us in our defence radar systems.

598
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:12,000
We pick up the incoming quotes, enemy quotes of radars, amplify them, distort them and send them back.

599
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000
So they get the wrong end of the stick.

600
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,000
I know for a fact that it was done, we were doing things like this in 1944 and 1945.

601
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,000
They called it then, it was quite simple by comparison.

602
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,000
I did do a little work on radar.

603
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:39,000
And 1944 and 45 we had a thing called SPOOF, which was indeed attempting to spoof the enemy intelligence

604
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:47,000
by apparent indiscriminate use, very cleverly done indiscriminate use of the radio networks.

605
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,000
Max says this thing could possibly be done in the field of hypnotism.

606
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,000
I'm not going to argue with him. I've seen what he can do with hypnotism.

607
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,000
I've told you about the Sandling path thing.

608
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,000
Do you remember the Whidbey Island case?

609
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:13,000
This Whidbey Island thing was just about the first case I ever dealt with as editor of the review.

610
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Very peculiar, not terribly conclusive.

611
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:26,000
But well, as I say, we must collect lots and lots of these things and then they all begin to fit,

612
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,000
as the pattern begins to emerge.

613
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:36,000
In the Whidbey Island case, the woman saw this object hovering outside her yard.

614
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:46,000
And the entity came down, which, so she said, had some sort of conversation with her, in what manner we don't know.

615
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,000
The point is that the entity just came straight through the side of the craft.

616
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,000
And indeed, it went back that way.

617
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,000
And this sort of thing happened.

618
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:10,000
Apparently, at Belo Horizonte in Brazil, where the small boys in the backyard of their house saw the thing hovering

619
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,000
and they saw the one eyed man come out of the side of the craft.

620
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Come right through it and down the beam of light towards them, this stiff gate.

621
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Then there's the case of Oscar Iriart in Argentina.

622
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,000
There are hundreds of these cases, but I don't know, just recall one or two.

623
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:40,000
Oscar Iriart, who was out riding, then he saw this peculiar object and he saw two men.

624
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,000
He thought they were bird plants or something.

625
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000
And then when he got close, it was rather peculiar the way these looked at him.

626
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,000
When he got close, he realized he could see right through their legs.

627
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,000
It was a rather peculiar thing, isn't it?

628
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:07,000
Then that Mendoza, the two casino jappies, who were driving home in their old banger.

629
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:18,000
When it was stopped, they saw this object hovering over a sort of all broken down bit of ground,

630
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,000
the side of the road, and the beam of light from it.

631
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,000
When their car stopped, they got out, they wondered what the hell was going on.

632
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,000
And they saw five entities, they said. Everybody said they were mad.

633
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:38,000
They saw five entities, which came towards them across the ditch as though there were a bridge there, as long as beam of light.

634
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:50,000
I wouldn't have refused anything in this idea of images being projected into the minds of the observers.

635
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,000
It's certainly worth thinking about.

636
01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Anyway, the message in all this is, this idea of what's been happening in the last ten years,

637
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:10,000
is that we must not discard any ideas or evidence out of hand.

638
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:19,000
The extraterrestrial hypothesis is still very valid, albeit more sophisticated than heretofore.

639
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:34,000
And we mustn't forget the damski. Any more than we must forget AVB, Dr. X, and Uncle Tom Coveley at all, and poor Inacio Souza.

640
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:50,000
It's not inconceivable that entities, controlled devices, whereby the images of these creatures, appear to us, and messages,

641
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:56,000
I put that in quotes, in messages in the mind, for what purpose we don't know.

642
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Maybe the purpose is to make the subject look silly, or maybe to look the other side look silly.

643
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,000
Who knows?

644
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And even notions of nocturnal sexual orgies in flying saucers can be pumped into human minds.

645
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It's possible that these same entities are responsible for other phenomena too.

646
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Therefore, we must look at everything and be completely open-minded.

647
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That's the message is how I see it. We must collect everything and record it.

648
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We've made a venture which has not come unstuck, but it's been severely hampered by these recent postal shenanigans

649
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of our little case histories, a new magazine.

650
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This is all to provide extra space so that this subject can be recorded.

651
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Even if only for posterity.

652
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I'd like to finish by saying how much better it would be for us if we had properly documented records

653
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of all the events of 1947, or 1946, or 1909, or even 1897.

654
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We might even find it superfluous to hypothesize.

655
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Thank you very much.